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Discussion in ‘ General Messageboard ‘ started by spiritfreeSep 22, Donate Log in or Sign up. Welcome to the Diabetes UK Forum.
Has anyone got the accu-chek aviva expert mnaual. I have just seen it on their site and I am wondering what it’s like. Yes details here www. So what do you get that is extra to a normal Accu-Chek meters? Well you get the software on the meter that is used in the pump handset for calculating your required bolus dose for a given weight of carbs at a given time of day based on the basal ratios that you have stored on the meter and also any correction dose that your current BG reading suggests you need.
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You also get some extra functions for analysing your results on the meter itself; a colour screen! So those are the benefits, so what are the cons? Well I believe they want janual charge quite a bit of money for this, about?
So that is ten times the cost of a standard meter and at that price you are unlikely to get one for free from your medical team although I have a recollection of someone on this forum saying they have been given one. It seems a lot of money just for some extra software and a colour screen.
I like the handset I got with my pump but without the pump element I do not think there is enough benefit from this to justify the extra expenditure. Plus majual the pump handset is anything to go expegt the batteries, three AAA Lithium ones, will need changing about once every three months whereas all the other meters I have had have had a much longer battery life than that. If I remember correctly exert have the Combo pump and have now got the handset so essentially you already have this meter.
I was surprised and a little disappointed to read that you had to buy this for yourself. Hi, I have been using the Aviva Expert for about a week now. I got it free at my clinic, because I agreed to ‘trial’ it. Manuzl real terms this seems to be receiving an email to comment on what you think etc accu couple of months later – and they get my valuable contact details etc.
It came with one lot of 50 strips and then they ‘advise’ you to acck your prescription with your doctor – which is of course where they make the money, in the consumerables. The rep fxpert 45 minutes showing how to use it and putting the settings in etc. I’m very pleased with it and the rep said it is more like the brain bit of a pump just as Rossineri explained cheek they then widened it out to MDI.
I am on MDI and don’t really fancy a pump at the moment but this feels like it gives me some of the advantages of the pump. You have to put all your info into it and only use one metre to get the most out of it though but you can add data retrospectively. I’m very happy with it and would recommend, I am sure the manufacturers are anxious for other punters – you could try ringing them or tell the clinic you are happy to be involved in trials etc.
LaineyOct 1, The obvious one is the Aviva range as it doesn’t have a fixed cartridge of strips. I love the Soft Touch and Compass software but would like the Ketone blood test function.
MarcOct 1, I was given one by my DSN towards the end of December and so far after spending some time to get the settings right it’s making a pretty good effort at suggesting boluses.
The thing which I can’t seem to get to work as I’d expect is the ‘Active Insulin’ reading. According to the blurb ‘The meter displays the calculated amount of Active Insulin’ however, when I was running post-meal testing over the weekend at 30, 60, and minutes the ‘Active Insulin’ read ‘0u’ throughout for 2 meals and at ‘0.
Has anyone else had this? Is there some sort of avivs in settig up that might cause this? Mine does tell me how much active insulin I have ‘on board’ though which can be useful. Phil65Jan 4, I have one but I am nto using it acu the moment. Initially it was pretty good.
But I then found out that it manua seem to take into account active insulin from earlier carb boluses when calculating what dose it suggests. So sounds experf you have a similar problem with it Mike. I tried testign and giving a bolus then checking 15 minutes later and I was 13 and it wanted me to correct that using my normal correction ratio, which I didn’t do as i knew I had just eaten and had plenty of active insulin.
I am very bad at writing down my results or downlaoding them so i liked having the graphs on the meter. Please tell me that this is not the same meter as what comes with Spirit Combo? If it’s the same meter it should have the facility of blue tooth to connect to the pump, which will include the basal rate setting etc. As with the Combo the handset acts as a remote control! If it’s the same meter I will not be happy at all, as at present I’m being messed about by Roch concerning the handset for my Combo pump delivered just before Christmas without the handset, which I’ve been told that I’ve got to pay?
Ellie JonesJan 4, Yeah it is the same meter that links with the combo pump. Although the stand alone meter is programmed slightly differently. Ellie – I do think it is the ‘brain’ of the Roche pump, or something very like it.
You might ask your DSN to see if there’s an Expert you can try before you shell out the? I think Shiv mentioned the other day that the Expert was only? If you push Roche hard you may well get the remote for free – after all I didn’t pay anything for my Expert and I’m not sure Shiv paid for hers either they had a few for people on trial which I was told about but not contacted in time to take part. Yes Sofa, I think you are right, the active insulin is not factored in to the bolus recommendation I’d worked that out alreadyhandily the manual actually tells you what is and isn’t involved in the calculations with maual examples.
It also seems to sort of ignore recently eaten carbs in its calculations It was one reason why the ‘active insulin’ was so handy. Mostly the ‘bolus advice’ seems to be a straight carbs: The advice screen shows you the mechanics of the calculation and also how much active you supposedly aaccu on board which is why it was so useful for me, particularly given the rounding up and down to whole units that happens for us MDI luddites.
I’ve dropped Roche a line and will report back if they shed any light on it.
Believe me I have no intentions of forking adcu It does sound like a cutdown version of the Combo handset, if it hasn’t got blue tooth caperbilites then it’s deffo different. Shall have to hunt out my manual for the software as this gave the calculations used I found with the Compass software it wasn’t the answer to all, and compared against other manufacturers pump wviva it lacked a lot.
But saying that as long as you aware of it’s failings it’s a pretty usefull piece of software.
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Its the case the more expery available the better our judgment call is. I have had this meter since July, I am also on the trial for avva. I have used it for a while and then got fed up with it and went back to my old one.
Found it took to long before lunch at work to key all the info in, half the time I was hypo and just wanted my lunch.
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Im sure its got its benefits, i’ll go back and start using it again now I am hypoing less. SmitJan 4, I’ve been using this for around a month now, including one week with spectacularly good levels I’ve written a fairly moany review with my thoughts here: I have to speak from my experiences and i think its fab I too got it free amnual doing a dafne course last june we was one of the first groups to test it i believethen when i got my pump in september it made everything so much easier because i was given the accu-check combo which uses the avia along side the pump ,ive had no problems and my diabetes has got so much better.
JennywrenJan 16, Good to hear Jenny I like it too, and to be honest I think I like it much more than my review suggests Hello, Sorry to resurrect an older thread but I just joined the trial for this meter last night and so far I’m liking it. Just wondered how those of you who have been using it longer are getting on with it?
NiVZMar 8, I keep meaning to write a follow-up post on our blog. I really like it. As I said in my earlier post, I had did get the expert handset without paying for my pump, so been using it since end mid January I do like it and it has been very usefull with aiding better control, I was pretty lucky in that when I set up my perimeters for the wizards they were pretty correct so didn’t have the niggles of seeing advice I wasn’t expecting.
I did have to rethink one of my methods for correcting a high bg to work with the handset, my old method of using a combination of bolus and TBR on the pump, meant that the wizard wouldn’t include the TBR in calculations, so it was a case of sorting out a dual wave instead!
But saying that since using the handset, I haven’t hit the BG levels to implement this combination! From a pumers prospective, it actually doesn’t take any longer using the handset than it did to take a BG reading and program the bolus. It actually makes life easier as you don’t have to touch the pump at all, just press ok to set off the delivery! Ellie JonesMar 8, Thanks for your replies. It’s encouraging to hear it’s been useful. I said in another post that my BG had been quite level vhek, but it was around the mark Since getting the meter, I’ve been in single figures the whole time and only had one hypo due to me overestimating pancakes last night.
So far the thing I’m most impressed with is the half unit corrections it’s been suggesting that I probably wouldn’t have bothered with. Like you Ellie, I think Epxert been quite lucky that I was already quite sure of my own ratios and sensitivity to insulin so that made it a lot easier to setup and I’ve had to spend less time fine tuning.
NiVZMar 9, Hello, Vhek getting used to this meter and had a question I hoped you guys could help with. I’m happy with the ratios I’ve entered, sensitivity, etc, but I’m having a problem with snacks. My ratio is 2units: Mabual I’ve got my snack size set at 10g I had breakfast this morning at 8: I then wanted to have a snack at 10am again, BG in manul and entered 10g and it’s telling me to take 1 unit.